America’s underbelly isn’t a pretty picture

What cracks me up about the moral outrage and hypocrisy of the aged, liberal, and well-to-do component of those who attended the circle jerk they call a “rally,” is the fact that having robbed the United States through deindustrialization and “free trade,” they now, with a level of material comfort and security most of will never attain no matter how hard we work or how much gratification we delay, stand their smugly waving their protest signs in defense of Palestinians. True concern for Palestinians would entail selling all of their U.S. defense stocks and investments in Israeli companies and becoming a tiny bit poorer. But no, it’s much easier to wave a sign for an hour or so, fold it up, hop in their Teslas, Volvos, or Land Rovers, drive to a 5 star restaurant and dine on steak, lobster, and fine wine all the whole breaking their arms patting themselves on their backs in total self-admiration at their own moral superiority and in disgust at us, working two jobs, making garbage wages, and unable to have enough breathing space to even find the time to attend a rally or contemplate geopolitics even if we wanted to. These people have placed themselves on crosses of their own making.

In religious terms, they see themselves as individual Jesuses, doing God’s work screaming at the rest of us who don’t really give a sh_t because we are too busy trying to put food on the table.

These same people at those rallys represent a slice of Americana relegated to their wealthy generation or to those with enough time or material security to allow them to contemplate geopolitics. It would also appear they haven’t, if they had, they’d side on the side of Israel, a nation defending its people and nation from hardened terrorists (and sympathizers) bent on its destruction and backed by a nation (Iran) who is on record as intending to wipe Israel from the map.

I’m a veteran, in my 50s, a history major, and proud member of the working poor. The next time one of these well-off rally attending hypocrites wants talk down at us, I’ll just continue to vote against their interests. As will the MILLIONS of Americans in the same boat. If you want a “kinder” America, as all your bumper stickers attest, improve our material conditions by shoring up our our social safety net and public institutions. Stop wasting our money on foreign entanglements and corporate bailouts. Otherwise, you libs can just shove it right up your…

Scott:

Ok, how then, do you propose an arrangement that protects the state of Israel? This is a glaring omission in your diatribe. And you can forget seceding one inch of Israeli territory too.

Scott:

1. “Most of the Israeli People would agree that those would be good steps forward.” The polling would suggest otherwise, sir.

In responding to this question, “In your opinion, do the Palestinian people have or not have the right to their own state?

In the total sample, a slight majority of respondents say that the Palestinian people do not have the right to their own state. However, the difference between Jews and Arabs on this issue is huge: While almost two-thirds of Jewish respondents believe that the Palestinians do not have the right to their own state, an overwhelming majority of Arabs hold the opposite view.”

So feel free to stand with Palestinians, I’ll stand with the Jewish people openly and proudly here in the US and in the Jewish state of Israel. In America you are free to have your opinion and that’s fine. I just won’t countenance it. (Further, my spouse is Muslim too.things aren’t always black and white are they?)

*Source: https://en.idi.org.il/articles/56081

We’re entitled to our own opinions, I’ll respond later after work.

sLIvInsKE:

You argue that there is a moderate element to Palestinian society, i.e. Fatah. Is there? Moderates would search out extremists amongst themselves, clap irons on them, frog march them to Israeli authorities where they would promptly be turned over, charged, prosecuted, and punished. This has not happened. Why? Because every single Palestinian harbors sympathies for the actions for Hamas. Every single Palestinian wants to see Israel destroyed as do many of its neighbors. Every single Palestinian wants revenge.

Hamas declared war and war they shall have. Total war. Or, as we say in the U.S., GTFO. It’s over. The decades of murdering Israeli families in their sleep are over. The decades of bus bombing are over. The decades of kidnappings are over.

I’m old enough to have grown up on tv. I remember the regular images of burnings buses in Israel or shootouts on Israeli streets caused by disgruntled Palestinian youth or PLO “freedom fighters” and I’m still traumatized by it. It has come to its end and I’m glad for it. An armed society is a polite society and it brings me great joy to read that a random armed Israeli civilian immediately blows them away when they conduct an act of terrorism on an Israeli street and no one bats an eye. Here, the terrorist would be celebrated and the armed civilian would go to jail because idealists like you inhabit a place of privilege and don’t understand why your values only apply in theory. When someone is shooting at you, are you really going to start reading to them a chapter from Thomas Aquinous or return fire? I’d be doing the latter and live while the bleeding heart liberal would be lying flat on the ground unalive.

Your perspective is that of an American liberal, thousands of miles away, well fed, and disconnected. I’d love to hear your outlook living there, as a patriotic Israeli, arguing for a continuation of what has stopped working. Namely, dialogue. Palestinians have taken Israeli offers of dialogue as weakness, meanwhile people like you want more of the same. If Palestinians want respect, give respect, because the state of Israel isn’t going to just fold up and go away. And fortunately, we still have their back. Their defense is about the only tax dollar I’ve sent to Washington I’m happy to pay.

After Hamas and their sympathizers comes drug cartels and their U.S. distributors: street gangs. Our military is collecting signals intelligence across our southern border and have active duty troops there too. Are you going to cry foul about that also? How many people do you know who died from fentanyl? I know five people I grew up with who are dead from it. I won’t be shedding a single tear if the US Navy sent a tomahawk cruise missile right into one of their cartel headquarters in every single state of our neighbor across the border.

A certain eastern country with a population of 1.4 billion people is providing precursors to those drugs to the cartels, gaining ownership to a majority of warehouses at the Panama Canal, building new ports in Latin America and building infrastructure for those countries, it’s only a matter of time before they start eyeing our massive agricultural resources in the Midwest and California Central Valley as something they might want to feed their 1.4 billion people. What then, madam? Do you want your children or grandchildren to become their servants? What are you going to do when they come over the wire? It’ll be too late at that point. Defend our allies, defend ourselves. (Ukraine isn’t an ally, Israel is).

For all its faults and despite having served on active duty in a combat unit, graduating college, working two jobs, and still living in poverty, I love my country. Can the same be said about you?

As Teddy Roosevelt said, “speak softly and carry a big stick ”

How’s that for “mansplaining?”

Toodles.