A new book by astronomer Avi Loeb considering the mysterious object from interstellar space that passed through the solar system in 2017, Extraterrestrial, may not have conclusively solved the many questions about this event, but the reaction of some of the scientific community to Dr. Loeb’s theories have revealed a lot about ourselves.
The object, dubbed ‘Oumuamua, was about 400 meters long, cigar-shaped, moving at an unusually high speed, shinier than a typical space object, and came from the direction of Vega, a star about 25 light years away. Not only was the shape and reflection of the object unusual, but an anomaly in its trajectory was observed that was not readily explainable by conventional physics. It appeared to deviate from the path calculated if the object was just being influenced by the sun’s gravitation alone.
These unusual characteristics resulted in speculation that the object was an artifact of an intelligent civilization. Similar scenarios had been depicted in science fiction novels, including Arthur C. Clarke’s famous work, Rendezvous With Rama. Dr. Loeb’s book argues for that theory and has received a lot of derision from the scientific community, many of whom also ridicule the idea of extraterrestrial intelligence generally, and SETI (the search for extraterrestrial intelligence).
While his book certainly does not offer conclusive evidence of the intelligent origin of ‘Oumuamua, nor does it purport to, it is an interesting theory at least deserving of consideration. Just applying Occam’s Razor (the most probable explanation for something is that requiring the fewest assumptions), lends it weight. While the shine, shape, and speed might be natural, how can the physics-defying trajectory be explained without inventing new laws? If alien civilizations do in fact exist, our first physical encounter with one might well be in the form of an ancient artifact. This approach does not require postulating the existence of some faster-than-light “warp drive” or other fantastic technologies. It is a lot more serious than predicting that little green men in a saucer will demand an audience with our leaders (although I suppose that some of our political leadership might be best explained by malign extraterrestrial intervention).
The possibility of other intelligence can be supported by considering the vastness of the universe, and applying simple math. If intelligence can occur on Earth, it is likely to have also occurred elsewhere in the infinite reaches of the universe. The old “infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters … ” thing, and all that.
So why are some of the scientific community so hostile and dismissive, especially when many of them readily consider other theories without experimental proof, such as string theory, dark matter, and multiple universes?
Conservatism in science is not only desirable, but necessary. Theories need to be vigorously challenged, especially where acceptance demands an expensive and painful reaction, such as with anthropogenic (human-caused) climate change. As Carl Sagan observed, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” But the opposition to Loeb’s theories and extraterrestrial intelligence go beyond normal conservatism. What gives?
Well, as Galileo discovered, many people are emotionally resistant to having their place at the center of the universe questioned. His theory that the Earth did not occupy the center of the universe offended the notions of many as to their own primacy in the greater scheme of things. Any civilization with the ability to send an interstellar probe is necessarily more technologically advanced than we are.
This leaves humanity, at best, playing the role of sidekick Ed McMahon to the alien Johnny Carson. Or, less appealingly, treated as entertaining “pets,” with our race’s greatest achievements reduced to mere amusing tricks like “sit” or “roll over.” We might be viewed dryly as just another sample to be catalogued, just as we view, say, a new species of lichen. Still worse, we might be viewed as just a “snack” to be noshed upon while en route to an important destination.
Our egos resist any scenario that challenges our importance. Thus, our emotions drive many to just pretend that other intelligent life can’t possibly exist. But the ostrich approach is hardly objective and scientific.
This unwillingness to contemplate the possibility of anything greater than ourselves manifests itself in atheism as well. Those who confidently purport to absolutely “know” that God definitely does not exist, because they have seen no proof, disregard the logical difficulty in proving a negative. By their logic, radio waves, viruses, etc., did not “exist” 200 years ago, as we were then unable to detect or prove them. The current inability to detect is not proof of anything. For those dedicated to logic and science, instead of their own emotional needs, agnosticism and leaving the question open makes the most sense.
As with all professions, science is subject to the vanity and insecurities of its practitioners, and orthodoxy can be a comfortable refuge for those unwilling to face uncomfortable possibilities. Δ
John Donegan is a retired attorney in Pismo Beach who has already packed his bags for an anticipated ride on the spaceship and has set up a GoFundMe page for the fare. Send comments in a letter to the editor by emailing letters@newtimesslo.com
This article appears in Mar 11-21, 2021.
So, I was waiting for the real reason for this rant about ET and how evil scientists (who, by the way, believe in climate change) must be too rigid in their thinking because they dismiss a theory from one astronomer. Of course, these scientists must be “atheists” and probably Democrats. For this op-ed writer, the leftists are around every corner seeking to spoil his fun.
When I was a kid, I loved sci-fi and when I was a young teen I picked up the books of Erich Van Daniken, who wrote Chariots of the Gods, and was very much into the idea that aliens had visited Earth. When my beloved grandmother, who sang in the church choir, taught Sunday School and hosted a Bible study at her house once a week, caught sight of my reading material she lectured me about how such a belief was against Christianity because, after all, God didn’t create some other planet (like the ones near Vega) with its own Adam and Eve story.
And, while I personally have no opinion about alien life, I do know that such a theory erodes the ideas of monotheism while it actually causes no problem for the belief system of atheists who would simply say that anything is possible in a universe without a God.
@Michael Smith: You might want to re-read the column. There is nothing about Democrats, liberals or evil scientists, just a rumination on how some reject the idea that there might be something greater than they are. Perhaps the column is functioning like a Rorshach blot test, prompting you to see what you are inclined to see. And how does the possibility of extraterrestrials contradict theism?
@Satchmo Kelvinator: Bull hockey!
It’s a common argument among climate change deniers to equate the position of Galileo to those (a very small group, unlike the legions of thinkers in Galileo’s time who knew he was right but didn’t want to go against the church) scientists who deny anthropomorphic global warming. In this writer’s opinion, the “orthodoxy” of scientists who warn about climate change are foolish and arrogant in believing they have the answers or that there may be something in the universe they can’t explain. In reality, these scientists are simply reacting to Loeb’s hypothesis by saying that it goes against the laws of physics, and so far those physical laws have never been proven wrong.
As for extraterrestrials and Christianity, wouldn’t the Bible have hinted somewhere that the universe was full of other souls that also believed in immaculate conception, the parting of the Red Sea and other miracles that defy the laws of physics. I mean, the Bible is supposed to be the word of God, right?
@Michael Smith: Bull hockey? Fitting the beasts with skates would be difficult, and enabling them to handle a hockey stick darn near impossible. But, once so enabled, I am sure they would be formidable opponents.
I didn’t say anything about Christianity, although I am not aware of any beliefs that it offers on the subject of extraterrestrials. I said “theism” – the belief in a God. Millions of Muslims and Jews would dispute conflating the two. And nothing about theism conflicts with a belief in extraterrestrials. You are projecting your own narrative again.
You assume I am a “climate change denier”. I am not. I would consider myself a climate change agnostic, who is leaning towards the idea that we are probably contributing to change, at least to some degree. My concern is that it has become a matter of “tribe belief”, not science, and that the solutions demanded by liberals are the same as offered for every problem – give them more money and power.
“more money”
What, like the 5-6 trillion spent by conservatives for wars they started in Iraq and Afghanistan, or the estimated 1-2 trillion we’re spending because of climate change catastrophes such as hurricanes and fires, or the 1.8 trillion hole in the budget made by Trump’s tax cut, or the trillions we’ve lost because of Republican mismanagement of the pandemic in 2020?
I could go on, but I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
Conservatives created the hurricanes and wildfires? You forgot about the earthquakes they caused. While I am sure many would be happy to have the power to generate a hurricane, I sort of doubt that even the most sinister of right-wing ogres is THAT powerful. They existed long before either conservatism or even mankind, and of course, the greatest emitters on the planet are China and India, hardly Republican bastions.
Yep Satchmo, I blame most of our nation’s ills on the conservative movement that has dominated American politics for the last 40 years, even the hurricanes and wildfires. We’ve known that the planet was warming at an alarming rate since at least the 1990’s and the Republican Party has done nothing but obstruct a movement toward renewable energy and, in fact, have done all they could to subsidize big oil—to the tune of more than $20 billion per year.
Not only that, but you’re wrong on “greatest emitters.” Americans easily outpace their brothers and sisters in China and India. The average American is responsible for 14.95 metric tons of CO2 while a typical resident of China uses only 6.57 tons and Indians are even lower at 1.57 tons.
I am surprised at the number of comments here. I was about to ask Mr. Donegan how many readers care about how scientists agree or disagree on some large and highly visible particle in space came to be in space. Then I see comments mentioning climate change and I can’t remember what all without scrolling back to read them. So, I remain surprised at the fact than anyone reading the New Times is able to read, understand and comment on this Rhetoric.
I am a real environmental applied scientist. Mr. Donegan is not. I am also a world renowned expert in multiple disciplines including environmental science. I’ve invented, built and tested environmental measuring systems. Mr. Donegan like many in this county are delusional and confused. Mr. Donegan introduces fear and ignorance into subjects he knows nothing about beyond his laughable third grade Google research reports.
The universe cannot be understood by simple math. Mr. Donegan has never practiced math beyond his superficial machinations and self deluded ramblings. He learned about physics from watching TV not by applying it in real life. Mr Donegan has never practiced applied physics nor has the slighted clue about the behavior and principles of subatomic particles. He’s never done the work but somehow he is recognized as a critical expert on the topic. Mr. Donegan has never been an member of top secret compartmentalized acknowledged and unacknowledged programs which study, classify, target, track, capture, and interrogate all entities including non human entities. He’s never trained others nor consulted government entities including but not limited to the CIA FBI, NSA, Mi6, and Mossaad. I have. I have captured such battlesspace entities in real life. I’ve invented top secret equipment to detect, identify, interrogate, track, and engage shape shifting trans-dimentional entities by exciting photons with elotro-optical pulses which are outside the human vision. Mr. Donegan is a rambling couch potato. Most current generals including the current Chief of Staff know me by first name. Nobody cares what Mr Donegan watched on TV. Next.
Kelvinator is a rambling fool too. This tool is an alias for Cal Coast News Groupie but more likely a Cal Coast News Contributer, Contributing to Minors – like Karen Velveeta.
@Clark D ‘Souza: If a delusionally grandiose baboon were capable of vocalizing, you would sound like one who had consumed far too many Red Bulls and espressos. Time to put on your foil helmet,and make the Voices stop.
Donegan attempts to invalidate those who are obviously accomplished in the field of science and paramilitary operations, to avoid criticism of his circus-circus views of the universe. Again, the entire applied science community, many current heads of NATO, and international paramilitary and government agencies, know who I am. All one has to do is Google my name and it shows up in over 20 languages and 1000s researchers have referenced my material. John Donegan, Cynthia Replogle, Bonnie Ernst and others on the other hand – nobody has ever heard of their scientific achievements nor have they published any notable research which has been recognized by international and government bodies. John Donegan is truly the village idiot. Please build yourself a banana boat and row row row your banana boat back to your banana kingdom in Scotland.
John Donegan sounds like Kevin P. RICE.
Fortunately for me I recognize predators like John Donegan. Predators like him are here for one reason only,themselves. They’ve never sacrificed for anyone nor anything beyond their nose. Science to them is like a novelty only to be talked about (not practiced) after watching a TV show about extraterrestrials. Never mind those real scientists who dedicate their lives to further scientific knowledge for the benefit of mankind and continue to encourage (not discourage) others to question reality. This type of commitment takes sacrifice beyond glib keyboard strokes.
Pay attention White America, white fragility has taken hold of John Donegan and his clan of rural stalkers. They project their ignorance and spew hate on everyone who questions their sanity or criticises their fragile white ego. Not today Satan. 😁
“Theories ought to be vigorously challenged….” and when a real African American Scientist challenged Johnny Boy’s psycho babble about scientific research, he replied with third grade insults. When one criticizes Johnny Boy about his belligerent online behavior and preposterous scientific ramblings he becomes triggered like a petulant child. He demonstrated his lack of scientific knowledge and his belligerent character like so many others. It’s counter-productive to his entire article. Words in his case are used to invalidate others instead of expanding the conversation into include….actual seasoned scientists. When his delicate big white ego is criticized he flips out. Trust fund tantrums do not define the universe. The entire scientific community doesn’t care what John Donegan has to say about anything. Nobody should take this loon seriously. The same goes for Tucker Carlson. He doesn’t define women’s roles in the military. The Marines have spoken. We don’t care what stupid cowards think.
I’ve already established a nickname for John Donegan: Baby Huey. Baby Huey hovers like a helicopter. Fly away Baby Huey, fly away shit bird. The Marines have spoken.
@ Baby Huey, aka: John Donegan. Hey shit bird take a peek at my vain photo. That photo was taken in Iraq when I practiced real science and paramilitary operations for the US Army and Central Intelligence Agency. (STARGATE PROGRAM) I located real chemical weapons, I caught real terrorist on the US Government’s DECK OF CARDS. I saved orphans. I invented the first laser to detect, identify, interrogate, track, and engage asymmetrical non-human and non physical entities which are capable of shape shifting. DARPA, NATO, the entire US Special Operations Command, paid me, not Baby Huey to write white papers on the topic and to invent, build, test, and field top secret prototypes. I could carry fully automatic weapons, rocket launchers, etc on commercial international flights during and after my paramilitary service as well as highly classified laser weapons systems around the entire world with my special US government passport. Now I balance pizza boxes off my belly and smoke a Peace Pipe in the Dunes with my sexy Rhodesian bitch named Daisy. I await forever to be seen by the VA. The Veteran Health Admin sucks as much as Baby Huey. Suck in the US Marine vainness and science, Baby Huey. Not interested in what Baby Huey has to say about his online movie review of his scary alien encounter. The Marines have landed. Fly away Baby Huey, Fly Away.
Read about us paramilitary operators below, Baby Huey aka: John Donegan.
“By 1995 the program had conducted several hundred intelligence collection projects involving thousands of remote viewing sessions. Notable successes were said to be “eight martini” results, so-called because the remote viewing data were so mind-boggling that everyone has to go out and drink eight martinis to recover. Reported intelligence gathering successes included:
Joe McMoneagle, a retired Special Project Intelligence Officer for SSPD, SSD, and 902d MI Group, claims to have left Stargate in 1984 with a Legion of Merit Award for providing information on 150 targets that were unavailable from other sources.
In 1974 one remote viewer appeared to have correctly described an airfield with a large gantry and crane at one end of the field. The airfield at the given map coordinates was the Soviet nuclear testing area at Semipalatinsk — a possible underground nuclear testing site [PNUTS]. In general, however, most of the receiver’s data were incorrect or could not be evaluated.
A “remote viewer” was tasked to locate a Soviet Tu-95 bomber which had crashed somewhere in Africa, which he allegedly did within several miles of the actual wreckage.
In September 1979 the National Security Council staff asked about a Soviet submarine under construction. The remote viewer reported that a very large, new submarine with 18-20 missile launch tubes and a “large flat area” at the aft end would be launched in 100 days. Two subs, one with 24 launch tubes and the other with 20 launch tubes and a large flat aft deck, were reportedly sighted in 120 days.
One assignment included locating kidnapped BG James L. Dozier, who had been kidnapped by the Red Brigades in Italy in 1981. He was freed by Italian police after 42 days, apparently without help from the psychics. [according to news reports, Italian police were assisted by “US State and Defense Department specialists” using electronic surveillance equipment, an apparent reference to the Special Collection Service]
Another assignment included trying to hunt down Gadhafi before the 1986 bombing of Libya, but Gadhafi was not injured in the bombing.
In February 1988 DIA asked where Marine Corps COL William Higgins was being held in Lebanon. A remote viwer stated that Higgins was in a specific building in a specific South Lebanon village, and a released hostage later said to have claimed that Higgins had probably been in that building at that time.
In January 1989 DOD was said to have asked about Libyan chemical weapons work. A remote viewer reported that ship named either Patua or Potua would sail from Tripoli to transport chemicals to an eastern Libyan port. Reportedly, a ship named Batato loaded an undetermined cargo in Tripoli and brought to an eastern Libyan port.
Reportedly a remote-viewer “saw” that a KGB colonel caught spying in South Africa had been smuggling information using a pocket calculator containing a communications device. It is said that questioniong along these lines by South African intelligence led the spy to cooperate.
During the Gulf War remote-viewers were reported to have suggested the whereabouts of Iraq’s Saddam Hussein, though there was never an independent verification of this finding.
The unit was tasked to find plutonium in North Korea in 1994, apparently without notable success.
Remote viewers were also said to have helped find SCUD missiles and secret biological and chemical warfare projects, and to have located and identified the purposes of tunnels and extensive underground facilities.”
https://fas.org/irp/program/collect/starga…
Never mouth off to a Rhodesian again, you old fool.
The Marines have landed. Fly away Baby Huey, fly away.
Baby Huey will get all his white friends and family members to dislike my comments to invalidate real history and real science to match his perverted views of the universe. Fragile white ego popped. The more dislikes the better. Mission accomplished. The Eagle has landed. Fly away Baby Huey, FLY AWAY FELICIA.
These idiotic rants by Mr. D’Souza are precisely why this country is so divided. I believe my comments were respectful of Mr. Donegan. I simply disagree with his point of view. There was a time in this country when left and right could actually sit down and discuss the issues without hurling negative epithets at each other.
After all, Mr. Donegan and I live in the same country and most certainly share a love for that country. I’m guessing we also have much more in common. I simply respectfully disagree with his conservative ideology and he most certainly disagrees with my liberal ideology, but that doesn’t mean we can’t sit down and find some common ground as Americans have done for over 230 years.
As for Mr. D’Souza, really dude, are you truly as unhinged as you sound? You may want to consult a professional about your condition.
Clark D’Sousa: Your insane rants sound like a free-association routine at the Home for the Pathologically Inventive.
Again, I don’t require validation from right wing tools who use aliases to hide their identity. Both of you baboons continue with your brutally ignorant rants to attack important people outside of your ignorant small bubble of old white sycophants. Science is found outside of Jesus Camp. You’ve been fed a big slice of humble pie. Enjoy Baby Huey.
Really Michael Smith? The laws of physics say smart people don’t listen to stupid people. If your sissy white culture has an issue with the way I express myself to white supremacists, then perhaps you should take your white people’s medicine. I don’t take directions from people who refer to me as unhinged. If you have a problem with me sharing my accomplishments, then it’s you who should seek therapy. Go gaslight someone else. You and Mr. Donegan do not impress anyone. You call my accomplishments a rant to invalidate experts. You are no expert. You and Mr. Donegan are the poster children of white fragility. I was never under the impression that I was going to change your minds. You are both ignorant and sociopathic.
Nope you are insane.
These are the facts as I know them.
John Donegan is a angry white master bater, and so is Kelvin P. RICE and Michael Smith. They are here to antagonise,stalk insult,cand invalidate anyone who disagrees with their perverted white unscientific delusions.
All of them insult highly decorated combat veterans. They’re disrespectful to scientists. They are not here to share or expand a conversation, They are here to indoctrinate others with fear and ignorance. This is the antithesis of science and being an American. The white victim cards expired after stupid white liberals highjacked BLM, burned down American cities and vandalised statues, defund police, murder law enforcement and combat veteransand. MILITANT WHITE RELIGIOUS CHRISTIANS FUNDAMENTALISTS tried to overthrow a duly elected government. White people are a rude novelty. Please stop projecting a false narrative of your culture. You sound insane and unhinged like those domestic terrorist who killed my brothers and sisters in uniform. We have to keep and eye on you white terorrorists.
@ Baby Huey aka: John Donegan, please continue to victimize yourself over my “vain” military profile photo with the foreign terrorists in the foreground. I captured these terrorists while operating overseas. This is the same military unit who is currently guarding Joe Biden and Congress.
We can’t have Baby Huey’s apologist friends and family (White America) burning down our cities because Karen and Kevin were outraged over the brand of soy milk used in their daily cafe mocha. Or because Baby Huey’s fragile feelings were hurt because a real scientist called him a rambling fool. Suck in the Orthodoxy of teamwork, discipline, dedication, and loyalty of US military. Baby Huey and his “outraged” white friends are ultimately triggered by their own white fragility, ignoranc, and hate. Suck in the vanity, cowards. Be jelly and offended. This is called science. STARGATE PROGRAM. We are not vain. We are men, not boys.
Michael Smith is not a meteorologist. I am. Mr Smith is from a small suburb in SLO County. Mr. Smith doesn’t know Sheriff Ian Parkinson has been directed to inform a big hairy Greek retired Air Force officer and former US Army JAG officer who ran paramilitary operations in the Middle East – any time someone disturbs me in public. I put your brokeback breeder Trump Sheriff on a corn fed diet. Suck in all that vanity MRS. SMITH.
@Michael Smith: Our ability to have a rational and coherent debate, despite vast ideological differences, while being assailed by the the bizarre gibberish coming out of D’Souza, reminds me of the stereotypical movie plot in which the warring nations of earth join forces to defend against loathsome invading aliens from outerspace.
The ultimate in white American outrage…how dare Mr. D’Souza claim he is an international renowned scientist who also ran operations with the CIA in both US ARMY AND US MARINES, and then invented top secret equipment for the military and create military training programs for homeland security. Yes. How dare a minority do that! That is the ultimate in white supremacist outrage. Please seek a mental health therapist for your silly white outrage. Yes brown people really have accomplished more than your white indignation would indicate. Marines are not vain. We are men among boys.
Basically this Baby Huey’s confusing rant about Orthodoxy and Vanity was about his personal assault on Discipline and Credibility in Science. Credible scientist questions raving loon who writes an online movie review of his pious obsession to discredit scientists to promote his perverted views online. Many scientific endeavors took military discipline accomplish. We don’t run our sucks freely sans documented testing and scientific evidence unlike John Donegan and Michael Smith et el – they are not credible scientists. They are here to sell online adverts for SLO New Times. Droning midwest mall speakers playing the their latest 1980’s top dance hits.
One last thing Baby Huey, Kelvinator, Michael Smith, et el, please learn the difference between and an online rant and a commentary. An online rant is undocumented accusations and personal attacks on a person or a subject. This is precisely what John Donegan attempted to accomplish with his loyal sycophant following from small town USA. Commentary involves being a credible person in scientific field(s) of study, using facts and scientific studies to explain natural phenomena. None of you are credible scientists. SLO New Times loves to promote master baiters like Baby Huey because these old crusty tools sell advertisement and promote hit counts for marketing purposes. The FBI loves these online forums too. This is where the FBI goes shopping for white supremacists of both stripes – liberal and conservative. I know, I had access to the training manual…be jelly
Dear Shredder,
Baby Huey, Mike Kunt, and Kelvin P. Rice deserve participation ribbons and the Rhodesian should receive an honorable mention in next week’s Shredder Cheddar Cheese Award. I feel like you can sit this one out. Thanks for the show.
Clark
Retired attorney claims most scientists and their methods are vain and outdated. Exploits strangers online to cough up money during an international pandemic While much of our nation is suffering, John Donegan believes you smart people should finance his stupid $250,0000 trip to space. He apparently convinced himself he is a gift to mankind. Baby Huey believes science is a courtroom where attorneys construct false narratives to support their client’s claims. Kelvinator and Mike Smith thought they were jurors too. Let’s be clear about one thing. John Donegan’s loony rants to attempt to sell advertising space for SLO New Times Shredder is insidious, period. Nobody should take this old man seriously. Advertising space is the only space reserved for Baby Huey to travel. Take care Rocket Man. Perhaps Cynthia Replogle can let you borrow her taser gun just in case Baby Huey encounters scary extraterrestrials of the sixth kind. Space, according to Johnny Boy is a potluck of fear.
Did you enjoy my vain unorthodox methods Baby Huey??? Brown Scientiss won’t finance your VAIN SPACE TRIP. We won’t buy tickets to your science circus show. A retirement home has a special place for Space Walkers – reserved for Mr. Donegan. They’ll feed him Geritol to recover from years of high fructose corn stupid in a courtroom. Spaghetti with a side of Space Balls and Irish Cream Jello Shooters are served on St. Patrick’s Day to scare away all the evil Druids. Happy Saint Paddy’s Day, Rocketman.
“Our ability to have a rational and coherent debate…” Yes, agree, a very noxious alien with diarrhea of the mouth. I thought maybe I commented too much. Sheesh!
Michael, go back to sleep. Nobody is here to see your three year old gaslightimg an adult. Go back to your mother’s basement after your long shift of Uber Driving.
TAKE A PEEK AT MY VANITY PROFILE PHOTO JOHN DONEGAN. YOUR DELUDED SYCOPHANT JURY OF MIKE SMITH AND KELVIN P. RICE WHO HIDE BEHIND ALIASES CAN SUCK IN ALL THE UNORTHODOX METHODS AND VANITY YOU CAN HANDLE. UNLIKE YOU AND YOUR COWARD JURY OF PUKE FRIENDS, I SERVED AS A PARAMILITARY SCIENTIST AND SPECIAL OPERATOR FOR THE US GOVERNMENT WHILE YOU SAT AT HOME AND ATE LARGE PLATE OF SHIT SAMMICHES. PHOTOS OF THE CHEMICAL WEAPONS LOCATED, ORPHANS SAVED, AND THE CIA DOG TRAINING FACILITY OVERSEAS THAT MY FIRE TEAM BUILT UP AND THE DOGS WE WEAPONIZED. YOU ARE A BUNCH OF LOSERS AND COWARDS. GOOGLER QUEENS. PHOTOS TAKEN IN COMBAT DURING STARGATE PROGRAM.
THE RHODESIAN
@Cark D’Souza: Your relentless deranged free-associatonal gibberrings remind of karaoke night at the insane asylum during a medication shortage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMKE-vv5zS…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhsCnkiZuh…
Help! A rampaging space alien is terrorizing the comments with an immense volume of incoherent gibbering. I am forced to defend this page, and to prevent further semantic assault and save Earth, with a device I learned long ago from another extraterrestrial: “clatu barata nictu”