rightword 2 
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Re: “The New Deal was a bad deal

Oh, yeah, Greg, another question you have continually failed to answer: Do you truly consider yourself a "slave", being the you suggest your system inherently enslaves. So, either you are a slave, or you have figured out some way to avoid being enslaved by an enslaving system. IN which case, please tell us how you have managed to remain free despite living in this system. And if it is possible for you to not be a slave, is it not possible for others to have the same freedom?

Posted by rightword 2 on 11/18/2017 at 4:42 PM

Re: “The New Deal was a bad deal

Next thing you'll e telling us, Greg, is that every civilization with a fiat currency has eventually failed. Well, the truth is that every civilization, no matter their currency, will eventually crumble. Nothing of our world is permanent. Never has been and never will be.

All you are doing is setting yourself up to be able to say "I told you so" on your death bed. But that is because you have believed the illusion. Solutions will instead come from the heart, not your books or your mind. Until you understand that, you will he just another "I told you so" failed economist.

Posted by rightword 2 on 11/18/2017 at 4:34 PM

Re: “The New Deal was a bad deal

So, what exactly are you suggesting be done?

Do you not believe in community and cooperation for the common good?

You don't answer pertinent questions., i.e., who disposes of the corpses? How are the poor and disabled protected and helped in a comprehensive manner?

Your quotes from St. Augustine are moot. The United States is not intended to be a "kingdom". Our Constitution aims to make sure of that. St. Augustine had not imagined a nation founded on the principles and ideals that are at the foundation of the United States of America.

The United States governmental system is a good one, the primary flaw being that dishonesty and cheating are prevalent and tolerated. We accept the myth that lying is necessary in our culture.

Other than telling the people of the world to read more economics texts, what specifically are you recommending? Dissolution of your government? Ending all forms of taxation? If that happened tomorrow where would that leave us? (Especially the poor and the weak).

Can you come up with anything practical and of common sense? Highways, police, fire, military...what do you do?

This is not the same world the St. Augustine or Lord Keynes lived in. The United States should not be following the tactics and aims of Alexander the Great.

Greg, you've created an entire construct in your mind, that to you seems to represent reality and your views tend to reflect what you have created in your mind. But in your construct, you have not taken into account the reality of a changing, miraculous world in which there will be entirely new ways of dealing with problems, ways that you will not be able to imagine if you maintain such a rigid view of what you consider reality.

Your postings, with all due respect, are evidence of the failures of economic theory. But, ironically, it also gives you the opportunity to feel righteous when you point to problems and say "I told you so". But the problem is that your solutions are not solutions at all. They are all "shoulda, woulda, coulda...". Because if you theories would really pan out, they would have already. They didn't. They are an illusion that you have bought into. Following your path all you will encounter is failure and at the end of you life all that you will have is the empty and false satisfaction in saying to yourself or others "Well, if they had only listened to me or vonMises". But you will have failed nonetheless and wasted so much of your life on false hopes that will lead to nowhere. Sorry.

Posted by rightword 2 on 11/18/2017 at 4:32 PM

Re: “The New Deal was a bad deal

But you still offer no satisfactory solution. Suggesting there be no taxes whatsoever and that contributions to government be voluntary will not work at this point in our evolution. And what about people who are unable to work or create value? We let them die on the streets in a "survival of the fittest" scenario? For one thing, who pays to dispose of the piles of corpses?

Your solution is no solution at all. Just a pipe dream that gives others excuses to be selfish and attack the government. What specifically do you recommend beyond theorizing? How do you make it happen?

And do you honestly believe you are a SLAVE? Seriously? Isn't that hyperbole?

So what do you want people to do if they want to back you on your theories? Stop paying taxes? Dissolve the government? Dissolve the military, police departments, fire departments, highway building, social security? Start all over and never mind the consequences and cost in lives and suffering?

In your "system" what stops the powerful from exploiting the weak, stealing from them, enslaving them and whatever else, since the poor and weak would likely not have the means to employ police and military or otherwise fortify their positions and protect their possessions and loved ones? What about highways? Who builds them and maintains them? What about the oceans? Who gets to use them and who gets to decide? Who would be entitled to the natural resources, including sources of water? Who controls the waterways in the United States? And what about prisons? Who funds those? Or do people simply get to kill those who transgress and leave the bodies to the vultures?

VonMise is simply not practical and is most often used today to justify selfishness and misanthropy. Sorry, while I think you are sincere and well-meaning, you've not thought things through based on what is in front of us at the moment and how we get from point A to point B in an acceptable, humane manner.

Posted by rightword 2 on 11/18/2017 at 2:29 PM

Re: “The New Deal was a bad deal

Basic FACT about FDRs New Deal: It gave immediate relief to millions of hungry, homeless, and jobless Americans. There were consequence of the New Deal, but many consider the trade offs all worth while, considering the number of lives saved. However, at the time and still today, there are many who were content to let massive numbers of people suffer and die in order that another portion of Americans could become wealthy beyond their imagination and consume, consume, consume, regardless of fairness or consequences to the environment.

Why are so many FDR critics today so willing to let people around the world suffer and die needlessly so that the more privileged and fortunate can get richer still? FDR's plan was one of compassion and common sense and any negative consequences are more that fault of individual greed and lack of compassion for others.

Posted by rightword 2 on 11/18/2017 at 12:11 PM

Re: “Speak out about the Dunes

I don't want to see OHVs eliminated from the dunes, but there is a point when we have to call out all the lies that some people spread that make the ridiculous insinuation that off road vehicles in the dunes have somehow made the natural habitat there more healthy and vibrant with new bushes miraculously springing forth under the nurturing wheels of dune buggies and motorcycles.

In fact, vast swatches of tall and dense dune stabilizing native chaparral in the dunes has been wiped out by Off Road Vehicles. There has been some planting of grasses in the region since then, but that in no way equals what was once there prior to the massive numbers of OHVs that swarmed the dunes in the 1970s and continues to this day. Where there was once forests of chaparral standing taller than the tallest man, there is now nothing but sand.

Very little respect was paid to the environment in the dunes by the OHV drivers. Shrubbery and chaparral were little more than obstacles to be run up and over and ground down with big rubber wheels. THAT is the truth. It's no wonder there have been problems environmental problems in the dunes ever since.

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Posted by rightword 2 on 11/18/2017 at 11:57 AM

Re: “Speak out about the Dunes

I for one would like it if OHVs continued to have access to a portion of our local dunes. But lets be REAL about some of the FACTS about the loss of vast swatches of tall and dense dune stabilizing native chaparral in the dunes having been wiped out by Off Road Vehicles. There has been some planting of grasses in the region since then, but that in no way equals what was once there prior to the massive numbers of OHVs that swarmed the dunes in the 1970s and continues to this day.

Anytime someone makes the claim that "the dunes have more vegetation on them now than they did before people started to use them for recreation" they are misleading you. The area in the dunes now used exclusively for off road vehicle recreation was densely vegetated at one time, but after OHVs took over the area, the area was denuded of vegetation. All there is there now is sand, but photographs from the 1930s through the 1950s show vegetation so dense and tall that cabins built there by the Dunites couldn't be seen from a distance. Check out Norm Hammond's book The Dunites for facts and photos that disprove the claims by Ian Tanner and Kevin P. Rice.

Rice, in particular, continues to spread the lie about the OHV area in the dunes. I personally was in the OHV area in the 1970s and 1980s and even at that time there was considerably more vegetation there than there is now. But even at that time it was sport among some off road enthusiasts to drive straight into and onto the vegetation, grinding it away until it was little more than dust. Before the OHV explosion in the 70s and 80s there were forests of native vegetation in the current OHV area that were so dense that OHV riders created tunnels through them that they would ride through (crushing the roots and eventually killing the mighty and tall chaparral that helped retain sand in the dunes. That is now long gone

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Posted by rightword 2 on 11/18/2017 at 11:45 AM

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