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Comment Archives: stories: Opinion: Rhetoric & Reason

Re: “Why the armory is a bad idea for a shelter

@ra237

Like the rest of America, use your freedom to move along to a better location for your (free loading) lifestyle.

Bleeding hearts sicken us and have ruined our once great state of CA.

Heres how you fix the problem...America needs to bring back PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY in the worst way and apply it to EVERYONE.

No excuses, no sympathy, no remorse. We, the productive and overtaxed, are given no quarter. Thus, turnabout is fare play.

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Posted by M. G. on 12/07/2018 at 5:36 PM

Re: “Why the armory is a bad idea for a shelter

It's not a coincidence that the state's most expensive housing markets have the highest rates of unsheltered homelessness.

I'd be interested to hear the author put forward some workable alternative approaches.

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Posted by ra237 on 12/07/2018 at 12:53 PM

Re: “Why the armory is a bad idea for a shelter

At last, and in disbelief, I am firmly gripping the arms of my chair as I compose this: Al Fonzi has produced an editorial for Rhetoric and Reason that I agree with 100%. I never thought I would see the day when his insights align with mine (and many others in Atascadero) on an issue. The recent proposal to adapt our city's armory building to an overnight or warming shelter for street people in the school and youth zones he describes is a terrible idea.

Those close to this problem will tell you that our county's "homeless" include a sizable contingent who are alcoholics, drug addicts, petty criminals, life-style transients and - sadly - the mentally ill. Among them is an organized subculture who - equipped with cel phones - inform their "colleagues" of charity opportunities up and down the California coast. In this instance, a build-it-and-they-will-come approach for the armory would concentrate their dysfunctions in an area used by our most vulnerable permanent residents: our children.

Gordon L. Fuglie, Atascadero

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Posted by Gordon Fuglie on 12/06/2018 at 7:46 AM

Re: “Why the armory is a bad idea for a shelter

Like I commented in the appalling "homeless" editorial that was rich in emotion and low on facts (the classic low info progressive formula), the bleeding hearts care not about the taxpayers but simply fixing their bleeding hearts.

Atascadero is full of unwanted, unsavory transient types. STOP enabling them towards our city. Enough!

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Posted by M. G. on 12/06/2018 at 7:38 AM

Re: “Singing for our lives

Thoughtful piece. Thanks for raising a discomfiting issue that is at the heart of the struggle to build the beloved community MLK spoke about.

Posted by Steve Sanders on 11/30/2018 at 8:37 PM

Re: “More than words

Thank you for saying organizing charities!
Private charity is fullfilling to those who participate and much more succesfull overall.
There is always a need to meet so add 'charity' to your budget and help as much as the budget permits!
No money, give time!

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Posted by Gail Lightfoot on 11/23/2018 at 2:25 PM

Re: “A century ago

Maybe Mr Fonzi can give a rational explanation why his president couldnt take a little rain and join us to honor the troops in France.

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Posted by Bob Marquardt on 11/12/2018 at 5:39 PM

Re: “One vote is all it takes

Every Vote counts so Vote and Vote your conscience like Amy did when she first voted. I cast my fisrt vote
for Eisenhower when I turned 18. Now I consistantly Vote Libertarian! because, for me, Liberty is the issue.
So, I simply decide if a candidate or an initiative [Proposition] gives individuals more or less personal freedom and vote accordingly.
Other have other values. So be it.
I hope over time the majority will turn to the wise teachings of our Founders and Framers who only too well understood the benefits of the King's largese came at a high price in personal freedom.

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Posted by Gail Lightfoot on 11/03/2018 at 11:23 AM

Re: “Measure G means litigation

Hey Ron, US may export but CA imports 56% of it's oil consumption. Using August numbers, we imported 1,634,000 barrels of oil in PADD 5 (that's us). We exported exactly 0 (ZERO) barrels from California. The US exports, but the west coast imports. This is because there is no pipeline across the Rocky Mountains. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/PET_SUM_SND_A…

Measure G will ensure that we import even more oil because that's how supply and demand works. The yes on G folks are trying to say that stopping domestic supply will result in a transition to a sustainable future. That is false logic. Reducing DEMAND is how you can make an impact. Measure G does NOT reduce demand. Stopping supply from CA will ensure an increase in supply via imports. If you don't believe me, just take a look at the last 25 years of crude oil supply data for CA. As CA and Alaska production drops, foreign imports increase (perfect example of supply and demand). https://www.energy.ca.gov/almanac/petroleu…

That's enough reason for me to vote NO on Measure G.

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Posted by Voice Of Reason on 11/02/2018 at 8:41 AM

Re: “Measure G means litigation

Big Oil lies are intended to deceive you, learn the TRUTH and Vote YESonMeasureG.org

The TRUTH is Yes on Measure G allows existing oil operations to continue for as long as the operators want.

The TRUTH is YES on Measure G allows all routine well maintenance as defined by State rules and regulations, including use of acids for maintenance only.

The TRUTH is YES on Measure G bans new oil drilling and future fracking in SLO County.

The TRUTH is YES on Measure G takes a huge step toward protecting our groundwater resources.

The TRUTH is our county water basins are in overdraft and the central coast drought continues. We need our water for more important needs than new oil wells.

The TRUTH is BIG OIL has plans to expand in SLO county by 481 new oil and waste injection wells. Oil operations remove 500,000,000 gallons of water from SLO county aquifers every year do we want that to grow?

The TRUTH is 120,000 gallons of toxic waste-water is injected into our drinking water aquifers every day in SLO county do we want that to grow?

The TRUTH is YES on Measure G helps by reducing a planned increase in greenhouse gas emissions associated with expanded oil drilling. SLO county oil fields extracts one of the most carbon intensive oils on Earth. Every year 100,000 metric tons of CO2 is generated by Big Oil extraction in our county do we want that to grow?

The TRUTH is Big Oil wants to greatly expand the number of wells in our county and allow for a future of fracking. More water wasted and more risk of water contamination is what we face if YES on Measure G is not successful.

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Posted by Doug Timewell on 11/02/2018 at 7:32 AM

Re: “Measure G means litigation

Yes on G! if nothing else, I don't want Montano de Oro to look like the Ventura Rincon with flame stacks. oil sumps. tanks and working and non working wells. Sorry for the landowners that will lose millions.

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Posted by Neil Pulido on 11/01/2018 at 2:29 PM

Re: “Measure G means litigation

Yes on G. Don't believe the Hype or 8 million dollars worth of Lies and TV ads It's time for more renewable energy,and less exporting,which the U.S. does quite a bit of. We've never had a larger surplus of Oil (waiting to be shipped out for profit) . Keep whatever we Do Havee here, and keep it In The ground.

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Posted by Ron Ross on 10/31/2018 at 4:00 PM

Re: “Measure G means litigation

Wow, Al has an opinion, a lot of speculation and fear too. I read the whole thing and what I could not find was factual information supporting his theory, which is actually an unsupported opinion.
Loosely strug together dog whisles with no factual content, sound familiar?

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Posted by Brian Poudrette on 10/31/2018 at 7:41 AM

Re: “Measure G means litigation

Correction: When the Constitution is ignored, landowners litigate.

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Posted by Voice Of Reason on 10/30/2018 at 2:59 PM

Re: “Measure G means litigation

So large corporations don't get what they want they litigate...got it

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Posted by Terrie Leivers on 10/30/2018 at 12:05 PM

Re: “Measure G means litigation

Al Fonzi is perpetually on the wrong side of history, the wrong side of what's right.

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Posted by Jenna Lovejoy on 10/26/2018 at 6:13 PM

Re: “Measure G means litigation

Question answered, 32 minutes.

Another question. What are the credentials of the yes on G campaign regarding fracking? Additionally, Al Fonzi seems to address the financial impacts of the measure. Interesting comment above that seems to miss everything the article addresses.

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Posted by Voice Of Reason on 10/25/2018 at 10:16 AM

Re: “Measure G means litigation

Al Fonzi's credentials do not prepare him to be an expert on fracking or Measure G. He appears to be another shill for the oil companies who are spending millions to spread vicious lies about voting yes on Measure G. If you actually read the Measure you will find it does not stop any present production in the county. It specifically addresses the problem of fracking which is counter indicated in this county because of the water table and other concerns about the toxic chemicals used in the process. The oil companies bought off the politicians and do not have to give out the formulae for these dangerous chemicals that help extract more oil and leave underground areas that are prone to collapse and increase the probability of earthquakes, just ask the people of Oklahoma.

The polemic above is not only ill advised to believe, but an example of how those for Measure G are supposedly going to further stop environmental rape. Why is what is good for the environment somehow against what is best for out citizens?

A vote for Measure G is a vote for sanity in the oil and gas industries. Al Fonzi appears to just another angry right wing zealot that has been loosed on the population by Trump.

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Posted by murphy.phd 1 on 10/25/2018 at 9:38 AM

Re: “Measure G means litigation

Couldn't have said it better myself. Great article with a lot of truths and some very important considerations.

How long before Fonzi gets accused of being paid for by NO on G?

Vote NO on G.

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Posted by Voice Of Reason on 10/25/2018 at 9:06 AM

Re: “Happy birthday to us

Congratulations to Andrew Christie and the SIERRA CLUB, San Luis Obispo! You've done so much good work. Thank you!

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Posted by Jenna Lovejoy on 10/18/2018 at 5:51 PM

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