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Comment Archives: stories: Opinion: Rhetoric & Reason

Re: “Still no choice

The author of this Pro Advocate, obviously can't be viewed as objective.

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Posted by Joni Nelson on 10/17/2019 at 10:19 AM

Re: “The real existential threat

DC and nuclear power are CARBON-NEUTRAL??!!
Seriously mistaken about that!

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Posted by Annie Aquino on 10/13/2019 at 4:20 PM

Re: “The real existential threat

G. K. Lightfoot: Unfortunately, there is not enough new technology to replace the amount of carbon neutral electricity we will lose when Diablo nuclear power is shut down. And with our backs to the wall, outside energy producers wont hesitate to stick it to us. No broker like MBCC will be able to negotiate around the multi-year obligations they will be forced to sign. And, if one day we are forced to utilize a community choice alternative, I vote for one in our own community, not dependent on other communities voting their interests over ours.

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Posted by Mike Mullen on 10/10/2019 at 6:30 PM

Re: “The real existential threat

Justinsale: al is correct about the caller. No, she was not from our area. She lived in Monterey County which is where MBCC started operations. She was making the point that it started off fine but quickly started costing more. She wanted to give us a warning, that was all.

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Posted by Mike Mullen on 10/10/2019 at 6:16 PM

Re: “The real existential threat

Al isn't wrong to point out the challenges we face with other nations, nuclear proliferation, etc. But he's quite wrong to use those threats to insinuate we don't need to do anything about climate change because it's a "natural process". HA. It's not "natural" to pull ancient hydrocarbons (gas and oil) out of the ground and burn them into the atmosphere. That slow moving and existential threat is just as real as nuclear war... but some people like to ignore it. Shame on you.

Oh, and it's impossible that MBCP had anything to do with your anecdotal stories of power bills going up. They haven't even started serving our region yet. Please get your facts straight before you demonize one of our best hopes at decarbonizing our region.

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Posted by justinsail on 10/10/2019 at 4:24 PM

Re: “The real existential threat

Yes, the Pros and Cons and Costs and add the possibility of producing power locally to end dependence on "the grid".

No matter where the power comes from, the same poles and wires are used to bring that power to our homes.

It is time to consider the new technology and allow local safe non polluting power plants so our communities have power all day, every day.

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Posted by Gail Katherine Lightfoot on 10/10/2019 at 9:58 AM

Re: “The real existential threat

Halloween is not for another three weeks. But the boogieman is here!

Al, you have named a several things to worry about, but the one that has the greatest loss of life potential, you say don't worry about?

Al, please write up a letter on the pro's and con's of switching to a carbon neutral way of life. Then read it.

All in one letter you complain about a bunch threats that people have created, and finish by saying that we don't need to change our ways.

Have you talked to your doctor about the signs of dementia?

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Posted by Ian Tanner on 10/10/2019 at 9:22 AM

Re: “Earth calling

We need campaign finance reform, lobbying reform, ranked choice voting, and term limits.

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Posted by Ian Tanner on 10/03/2019 at 8:19 AM

Re: “Of Trump and tribalism

Ranked choice will not make much difference in the general election, but it would be helpful in the primaries.

Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi are prime examples of why we need term limits. Both are way too powerful.

Same day primary means that all the states have their primaries on the same day.

I agree on the top two thing, terrible idea. Basically makes the general election pointless.

Gail, sometimes it seems like you might be the only one willing to vote with beliefs in mind, everybody else just votes for their "side". This choosing of sides has warped the ideas of liberal and conservative into these two bizarre things, Christians who are against charity on one side and overly-sensitive communists on the other.

I want to destroy the two party system. I think it has lead to too much centralization of power and has removed a lot of accountability. It's lead to the current system that is based only on hurting the other side, not actually trying to help make a better country.

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Posted by Ian Tanner on 10/01/2019 at 9:45 AM

Re: “Of Trump and tribalism

Ian Tanner says "We need ranked choice voting, campaign finance reform, term limits, and same-day primaries."

Ranked Choice voting will not stop the election of powerful, well funded incumbents. Not only that, you might find your second or third choice changes once you see who is 'in the lead'. I vote my conscience and only my conscience. I will never dilute that choice with a second but poor choice. Hopefully others will agree and ranked choice really will accomplish nothing.

Campaign finance reform ought to be to simple full disclosure. Allow you or me or our billionaire friends to donate to our campaigns as long as those donations are open to the public vision. It does not matter how much money a candidate has so much are where it comes from and why. Money does not buy elected officials votes. Elected officials votes attract money. That's why we have individuals staying in office for 20 and 30 years.

Voluntary terms limits are happening now. Fewer of the younger elected decide to remain in office as long as possible. I like the idea of term limits but then cannot be imposed on Congress without a Constitutional Amendment so that is a long way off. Meanwhile cast your votes carefully.

We need candidates who do not plan to make politics a career regardless of how good a job they do in office. every elected official can mentor someone to follow them to serves us equally well when they return to normal life alongside the rest of us. Pay attention to the elected officials staff and aides who may be the next candidate.

What is a same day Primary? Confused me with that phrase. Same day voter registration? We have that now.

Voters need to fully understand the current system in California. The Primary Election sends only two candidates to the Nov Ballot. That translates into the two candidates with the biggest bankroll [war chest in political parlance] who could be and have been two candidates of the same political party and ideology giving the voters no real choice at all.

I dislike admitting how many voters ask me if my name will be on the Nov ballot since Top Two began in 2012. Thankfully, I have retired from the more difficult to actually be a candidate system I oppose. Not only are the candidates who do run kept off the Nov ballot getting on the Primary ballot is so much more difficult that way fewer candidates bother at all. We truly have a the well-heeled only need apply system in place.

Voters need to support overturning the Prop 14, so-called Increases Voter Participation proposition that is actually the Top Two - biggest mistake ever made proposition as soon as possible.

Political Parties serve the public interest by defining the ideology of candidates more fully than their campaigns. We need all ideologies - i.e. all Parties and independents - on the final ballot so voters can vote, as I do, their beliefs and conscience. Voters need real choices that might bring the real change voters are hoping for in Sacramento and Washington.

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Posted by Gail Katherine Lightfoot on 09/30/2019 at 10:26 AM

Re: “Of Trump and tribalism

Thank you Jay and Annie for being excellent examples of exactly what John is talking about... good job..

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Posted by Rick Lee on 09/30/2019 at 7:58 AM

Re: “Of Trump and tribalism

What a way to rationalize support for an ignorant, racist, naziesque, no-class, wanna be dictator like Trump! Wow, do you have a bridge we might be interested in buying?!
Only nazis support nazis.

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Posted by Annie Aquino on 09/28/2019 at 2:31 PM

Re: “Of Trump and tribalism

Trump is a cult leader more than a political one. He has devotees more than mere supporters. This cult exalts cruelty. Cruelty is the whole point. If you have the nerve (or the stomach) to take a look around in right wing "news" sites or chat rooms you will hear from deplorables who say that the only thing more delicious than liberal tears are the tears of migrant children torn away from their parents. Others advocate outright genocide & say the children's organs should be harvested before gassing them or burning them alive.The Trump fans laugh at species extinctions & say that vehicle exhaust is "the sweet smell of freedom." They send death threats & threats of rape & torture to bereaved parents & survivors of school & church massacres.
I could go on but you Trump worshipers really are absolute scum. You are sadists, misogynists narcissists, liars, gaslighters, fools, racists & assholes just like your orange messiah .You are sociopaths who celebrate dear leader's corruption, criminality & treason.You are not conservatives in any historical or dictionary defined sense. Instead, you are nihilists, vicious, dangerously stupid radicals who waste oxygen. Please die.

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Posted by Jay Bonestell on 09/26/2019 at 1:58 PM

Re: “Of Trump and tribalism

We need ranked choice voting, campaign finance reform, term limits, and same-day primaries.

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Posted by Ian Tanner on 09/26/2019 at 11:40 AM

Re: “What's really killing plovers

Neither Sierra Club, nor CBD, offers any proof the birds weren't already dead. It's pure salacious speculation and hyperbole. Even so, Oceano Dunes produces more fledged birds than any other Recovery Unit on the west coast. And it's ONLY because OHV presence that the dollars are available for such astounding success. The Club has always managed to find and focus on a single turd in a a valley of gold.

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Posted by Kevin on 09/19/2019 at 5:22 PM

Re: “What's really killing plovers

For Mr. Tanner's edification:

"In March 2016 one snowy plover was found dead in tire tracks and another was found crushed in the riding area, on October 10, 2016, a snowy plover was found dead in a vehicle track, on November 1, 2016, a snowy plover was found dead in a vehicle track, and 2 additional snowy plover were found dead in vehicle tracks later in November 2016."

- Notice of Intent to Sue for Violations of Section 9 of the Federal Endangered Species Act for Taking Western Snowy Plover, Oceano Dunes State Vehicular Recreation Area, CBD, 7/19/17.

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Posted by sierraclub8 3 on 09/19/2019 at 2:49 PM

Re: “What's really killing plovers

You have failed to mention that the plovers at ODSVRA are much more successful than their neighbors at Guadalupe dunes, and the most significant difference between the two beaches is the amount human activity. Nearly double the percentage of chicks survive to fledge at ODSVRA than they do at Guadalupe. Predators account for the highest measurable number of plover chick deaths and lost eggs. The plovers at ODSVRA enjoy active protection from predators, due to that presence of campers and off-roaders, and because the park rangers put up fences and trap and KILL skunks, opossums, and coyotes. They get this protection BECAUSE of the park, not in spite of it.

The idea of a bird that cannot move out of the way of an oncoming vehicle is highly speculative, it's much more likely that a bird was already dead or immobile when it was run over. Yes, a few drivers at the dunes would intentionally run over a bird given the opportunity, but successfully hitting a live bird with a pickup truck would be amazing.

The idea of a tire slicing a tiny bird in half like a pizza cutter is ridiculous.

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Posted by Ian Tanner on 09/19/2019 at 10:19 AM

Re: “What's really killing plovers

Great article. CA is such a leader in so many things. Its shocking to see this insanity still going on. The Coastal Commission made a grave error in not immediately shutting down this barbaric, polluting and destructive activity on sensitive coastal habitat. Were watching increasing disasters from climate disruption unfold in front of us and CA has been severely impacted. Yet the state condones and even promotes fossil fuel joyriding in sensitive habitat that KILLS an endangered species??? Its far, far past time to shut this down.

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Posted by kayaker paddler on 09/19/2019 at 8:46 AM

Re: “Defending sandcastles

Even a perfunctory Google search will tell you that Als new favorite climate denier of the 3% of climate scientists is a shill for evangelicals. Roy Spencer doubts evolution and instead relies on intelligent (?) design to explain his theory of the advancement of species. Would love to hear his analysis of gravity. Mr Fonzi relies on Rush Limbaughs favorite meteorologist to spread his unrelenting assault on settled science.

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Posted by Bob Marquardt on 09/15/2019 at 8:25 AM

Re: “Defending sandcastles

The SCIENCE has been settled. The rest of the world is pleading with us to get it together. Putting your head in the sand and creating rhetoric to encourage others to as well is very dangerous. I am sure Mr Fonzi is passionate in his beliefs. Being passionate is very different than being informed. I am voting for a candidate that has a practical plan for preserving our future.

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Posted by Mo Do on 09/13/2019 at 2:42 PM

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