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Re: “Trumpflation!

What a convoluted pile of gibberish...sheesh!

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Posted by Mick Moran on 06/14/2018 at 2:10 PM

Re: “Want to talk about climate? Just ask

Well stated! Thank you, Dr. Weymann

Posted by Brad Snook on 06/14/2018 at 12:33 PM

Re: “Water vapor, greenhouse gases, and global warming

Mr. Bryne...

Your point of "could allow" really has no value. You pay for home and auto insurance, I presume, to mitigate risk? The risk to our water supply is not insurable and has to be regulated for the safety of the public. The Arroyo Grande Oil Field currently has ten or more active waste injection wells pumping 180,000 gallons (every day) of oil field waste-water (under very high pressure) into a drinking water aquifer; and they operate those injection wells WITHOUT A PERMIT FROM THE EPA and in violation of the Safe Water Drinking Act. That daily waste disposal will easily increase to more than 1.2 million gallons EVERY DAY with oil field expansion.

Peter, to help you keep that in perspective, the climate impact barrel for barrel, from production in the Arroyo Grande oil field is worse than that of oil from the Alberta Tar Sands in Canada (by as much as 32% worse), which is often referred to as among the most carbon-intensive petroleum in the world. The California Air Resources Board assigns a carbon intensity score to different production areas. But you probably know this already.…

This report lists the carbon intensity score of the Arroyo Grande Oil Field (AGOF) crude is 27.81 while the score of crude from the tar sands ranges from 21.02 to 24.49. The AGOF oil is very heavy and high gravity, and thus requires thermally enhanced oil recovery (steam injection) to produce it. Steam injection in the AGOF requires HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER to be heated into steam every year, primarily through the combustion of natural gas. Obviously, the expansion of the AGOF would increase CO2 output as the result of burning more gas to make more steam. Right!

Over the next 5 years (using the DOGGR reported CURRENT running rate), the Arroyo Grande Oil Field will convert more than ONE BILLION gallons of water into steam (and up to TEN TIMES THAT IF EXPANSION ALLOWED). Yes, that's Billion with a B over five years (over 1,000,000,000 gallons of water heated to steam). Imagine the amount of gas burned and CO2 that's generated and spit into our local air supply.

If the AGOF expansion is allowed - the math, just for the fun of it says - over the next 10 years (based on operator estimates of oil production of 10k barrels per day of oil and current ratios of water extraction at 19:1), the Arroyo Grande Oil Filed would extract over 29,000,000,000 (29 Billion) gallons of water or 88,957 ACRE FEET of water from the Arroyo Grande aquifer. Further, 13,000,000,000 gallons of that water would be heated with gas to become steam and CO2.

Where is all that water going to come from??

How important is our air quality to the residents of our county??

The Arroyo Grande oil fields CO2 emissions in 2015 is reported to be 78,000 metric TONS of CO2 and that number would grow exponentially if expansion is allowed. This makes the Arroyo Grande oil field one of the highest single contributors of CO2 in our County.

To recap, the Arroyo Grande oil field added value is the generation of all that unwanted CO2, wasting Billions of gallons of water, and injecting their oil waste into a water aquifer while putting at risk the drinking water of Edna Valley and the Five Cities.

Just my 2 cents...

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Posted by Doug Timewell on 06/12/2018 at 10:19 AM

Re: “Water vapor, greenhouse gases, and global warming

So you don't like Katie stating something that "could allow" contamination in her analysis then maybe you should write a letter to DOGGR the Division of Oil, Gas, Geothermal Resources about their wording when submitting an application to exempt a protected aquifer in SLO County from the Safe Drinking Water Act. As you can read below in quotes DOGGR states "the injected fluid is expected to remain in the area that would be exempted and is not expected to affect the quality of water......" Seems a bit unscientific coming from the state agency whose job it is to protect our groundwater supplies in the state of California.

"Based on consultation as required under Public Resources Code section 3131, the Division and the

Water Boards preliminarily concur that the proposed aquifer exemption area meets the criteria for

exemption under the Code of Federal Regulations, title 40, section 146.4 because it does not currently

serve as a source of drinking water, and it will not serve as a source of drinking water in the future

because the area is currently hydrocarbon producing or is capable of hydrocarbon production. The

Division and the Water Boards also preliminarily concur that the injected fluid is expected to remain in

the area that would be exempted and is not expected to affect the quality of water that is, or may

reasonably be, used for any beneficial use, due to geologic conditions and hydraulic controls."

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Posted by Natalie Risner 1 on 06/11/2018 at 10:21 PM

Re: “Water vapor, greenhouse gases, and global warming

There have been a lot of oil spills, leaks and accidents. One well-document list is at Many of these spills were in the US and some big. Why all these spills? Two possible reasons come to mind: (1) safely extracting, transporting and processing oil is difficult and accidents happened, and (2) the oil companies were not as careful as they could have been. Either way, drilling new wells or starting fracking in SLO County puts at risk our water, air economy and jobs. I dont want these risks forced on me.

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Posted by Jeff Lewis on 06/11/2018 at 8:45 AM

Re: “Water vapor, greenhouse gases, and global warming

You are correct and NOAA concurs, in stating that water vapor is indeed the most abundant GHG in the atmosphere. But you are wrong about saying there is nothing we can do about it. In fact water vapor concentrations in the atmosphere are increasing along with CO2 levels, as a result of the positive feedback loop created by global warming. If we reduce CO2 levels, we reduce global warming and stabilize water vapor concentrations in the atmosphere. Read more at:…

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Posted by Barry Rands on 06/09/2018 at 1:51 PM

Re: “The real problem

Gary, thank you for your response. Immigration is a complex issue in any society. It is not one-sided and it cannot be fixed in a partisan manner. To be an informed citizen, all of us need to pay attention to all sides, not just those we agree with. That was my point and I should have elaborated in my first post. This is not just about immigration either, we cannot trust our politicians and MSM to tell the full story on any issue. To be woke requires diligent attention and time. Sadly, many of us dont have the time. I consume more media than is probably healthy for me in an effort to stay informed. I even watch Fox News, which is how I know it is an unreliable source.

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Posted by Barbie Clark on 06/08/2018 at 7:46 AM

Re: “Oceano doesn't want to be the Dunes' doormat anymore

Ian, please re-read my letter as it does not say anything about ending motorized recreation on the dunes. We want no vehicles on the beach north of Arroyo Grande Creek; the OHV riding area is miles south.

Contrast Pier Avenue with the main streets in any other California beach town, for example, Pismo Beach. Those communities can capitalize on their ocean proximity with shops and restaurants, while Oceano cannot due to heavy truck and trailer traffic from the OSDVRA. As you point out, it's miserable to be outside on Pier Avenue because of blowing sand - which is tracked onto the street from the ODSVRA.

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Posted by Oceano Beach on 06/08/2018 at 6:27 AM

Re: “500 days of joy and gratitude

It often amazes and disappoints me, the way people can change their views of a subject, simply by changing it's name (or skin tone), even though the subject itself has not changed.

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Posted by Ian Tanner on 06/07/2018 at 5:53 PM

Re: “Oceano doesn't want to be the Dunes' doormat anymore

If you want to see dunes without motorized recreation, only a few miles down the coast there is guadalupe dunes. Go out there and you will notice a lack of people, a lack of shops, a lack of anything but sand, that's because sand dunes are really not a very nice place to be.

The recreation opportunities of the dunes can't happen just anywhere. The "potential business corridor" can and does already does exist elsewhere. Pier ave exists because of the motorized recreation, not in spite of. The shops on pier avenue that cater to the vehicular recreation are just fine. The restaurants and shops that cater to regular beach goers are shut because it's very often windy and cold with lots of blowing sand, it's often miserable to be out of doors there.

Vehicular recreation on the dunes is enjoyed many people, many more people than would enjoy the dunes without.

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Posted by Ian Tanner on 06/07/2018 at 5:36 PM

Re: “The real problem

Barbie, I'm sorry but maybe you should expand your media consumption somewhat as well. Seriously, where have you been living? Since Trump was elected the CA Democrats have been pushing laws that put illegal aliens ahead of citizens and protecting them from deportation. And yes, that's AFTER they break the law. You don't think the Democratic leaders of lie? I think it's time for you to wake up, because apparently you are really not understanding what's going on in California or national politics.

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Posted by Gary Maier on 06/07/2018 at 4:19 PM

Re: “Water vapor, greenhouse gases, and global warming

You haven't explained why water vapor levels have been rising over the last several decades. Climate scientists have a very good explanation of why and they can model it very closely. Do you know why?

The George C. Marshall Institute is funded by the fossil fuel industry and it isn't surprising they would run the cause-and-effect relationship backwards in order to arrive at a result convenient to their bottom line.

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Posted by Mike Segor on 06/07/2018 at 1:34 PM

Re: “Oceano doesn't want to be the Dunes' doormat anymore

The money grubbers in this county will never shut down their unhealthy dunes in Oceano. They would rather spend millions in medical costs and see people killed and maimed for fun and profit than stop their worship of Mammon.

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Posted by 1 on 06/07/2018 at 10:14 AM

Re: “Water vapor, greenhouse gases, and global warming

The "belief" that burning fossil fuels plays a significant role in global climate change is a FACT based on historical data and scientific facts, not a "belief" (Sources: NOAA, NASA, IPCC, etc, etc). Earth as flat is a belief; earth as round is a fact. Earth as center of the solar system is a belief; Sun as center of the solar system is a fact.

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Posted by Charles Varni on 06/07/2018 at 9:51 AM

Re: “A vote for experience

Sorry, Jim. Still don't like him.

Posted by Jenna Lovejoy on 06/03/2018 at 6:19 PM

Re: “The $10 million sewer question waits for elections

There has been quite a bit of discussion on how this will be paid at LOCAC, the Basin Management Committee, and Bruce Gibson's Office Hours. Mr. Gibson has made his position clear, but I have not seen any statement from Mr. Eckles. Please see page 4 of the LOCAC minutes off this link for Mr. Gibson's position on the $9.95 million settlement:

Posted by Lynette Tornatzky on 06/01/2018 at 10:33 PM

Re: “Vote for humanity

It's easy to ridicule others while not actually having a solution yourself. Are you suggesting that the US should take in all people who choose to cross our border illegally? I understand that everyone and especially children should be treated humanely but what's your solution to this very complex problem?

The Democratic party has created a corrupt and broken system in California with the highest poverty rate in the nation and the lowest quality of life and you want us to vote for Democrats!

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Posted by Gary Maier on 06/01/2018 at 9:47 AM

Re: “The real problem

Dear Helena, please expand your media consumption to include more than Fox News. I dont know a single Democrat that believes it is OK for immigrants to enter our country illegally. There is a process in place. The president is NOT following the law. Plus, he lies. Constantly. Wake up.

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Posted by Barbie Clark on 06/01/2018 at 6:48 AM

Re: “The real problem

So, a couple of activists from Los Osos want to pave the way for yet more weekly vacation rentals in Cayucos.They are squandering your state tax dollars to accomplish their goals.
To invent that Bruce Gibson voted against the further expansion of the weekly rentals in Cayucos because he lives 8 blocks from a proposed new one, is laughable. That is like saying supervisors should not vote on anything that has to do with roads repairs, because they live near one.
They want to kick open the door and further compound the problem. The ordinance as it already stands, allows for a small commercial motel in every residential block of Cayucos. Its wrong, but they want even more.
I have lived two blocks from downtown Cayucos for the last 68 years and can tell you that these motels in every residential block of town has done more to destroy the character of Cayucos than anything I have ever witnessed. They do not understand how most full-time residents want to see the ordinance completely re-written with strictly enforced provisions. If your license is revoked, it gone forever with a freeze on new licenses. Problem unscrambled.

Posted by Dave Stevens on 05/31/2018 at 6:40 PM

Re: “Vote for humanity

I agree with Debbie and want to remind everyone that we have a local example of inhumanity to consider in our voting. I can't imagine the inhumanity of taking children from their parents, but Sheriff Parkinson is responsible for the brutal and degrading treatment unto death of a local mentally ill man . Please vote for Greg Clayton for Sheriff so that we can rid our county of this disgrace.

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Posted by Kathy Oliver on 05/31/2018 at 10:37 AM

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